Hi David Thanks for your informative response, however did you mean to say your points 1 - 5 really are myths? The reason why I am not considering the price differential between the batteries is because my starting point is the cost of a new van upgrade would include a tug upgrade and would be around $70-80,000 to do the same job as the existing ones with a few mods.(Tony I can laugh at the cost saving) Weight saving is a consideration as we have a plated ATM of 3.1t and only 60-70kg to play with when water tanks are full and fully loaded to travel across the country.. If I lose 30kg with Lithium batteries that could give me enough extra load for a grey water tank and a couple more solar panels. The straight cost comparison of the offers received from the one supplier is 2 x 120AH Bosch AGM at $600 and 2 x 100 AH lithium with BMS at $2800. I believe the Lithium batteries would give me a lot more AHrs available without the concern as with AGM's of running the batteries too low and causing damage to them. Also my fridge stops working around 11 - 11.5V and Lithiums are likely to maintain a working higher voltage longer. As David said the Lithiums are relatively safe to fully discharge and quick to charge fully. No decision has been made yet as my old batteries are with the supplier being tested. I did not know that apparently a proper test of agm deepcycle batteries involves multiple cycles of charges to 100% and discharges to flat over several days. Cheers John