Thanks for the input and the heads up on the XC Sue. Between posting the thread and now we have purchased a 2005 19' XC on ATV chassis from Jan at Kedron. For a second I thought it was yours when I saw the post. I had figured pretty much as John said so steered clear of a pop up. We have asked Kedron to make a few changes to make it more an expedition unit. Added a 4th 80l tank, Front Loader Dometic W/Machine, 3rd Solar Panel and Battery (40a charger) and of course an ATM upgrade to 3.2T. Will pick up late in March. I suppose we can now official apply to be Kogers :-) I will send in the requisite form and $ and van deposit receipt. Thanks again for the feedback. Mario (& a very excited Christina)